the gay patient
“measure, digitally access, rectal tone and circumference q 30 minutes, x 6 hours. document results in the chart.”
i saw this phone order entered by our charge nurse 3 hours after it was written. the intern of the primary team who was assigned to the patient was the one who ordered it, and i know for a fact that she was gone.
concerned that it took me that long to see the order, i was determined to carry it out right away. i was actually a little bit guilty for not looking at the chart a few hours ago when another nurse told me that the charge nurse left a message that my new admission has a new phone order. only, the more i read it over, and over, the more it didn’t make any sense to me. i asked the charge nurse what exactly was the order all about. he told me to wait for him when he finished his break, and he will explain it to me.
while waiting, the on call intern came over. while he was charting, i asked him to look at the order and tell me what exactly it was all about. i told him i found the whole order confusing and that i am clueless as how exactly did the primary team intern wanted me to do it. i told him i sort of have a concept about the order, but it doesn’t make sense to me. i mean, how exactly, and why exactly?
“i have never heard an order like that in my entire life!”, the intern said.
“i know, it sounds like sexual harassment to me. is that even legal? am i even allowed to do that kind of thing? and how am i gonna explain it to the patient, if i myself am clueless as to why i am doing it? and most of all, why am i being asked to do this embarassing thing?”
“wow. i have no idea what dr. blank is thinking, but who is this patient and what was the admitting diagnosis?”, the intern asked.
“he is a 24 year old male. here for pneumonia, unexplained weight loss, and they are suspecting AIDS.”
wait a minute…my very own answer clicked somehow, and it made me feel very uncomfortable. was the primary intern trying to insult the patient by writing this order? what was she thinking? what?
“so? why would she want that inappropriate thing done? i have no idea. let me get back to you, i will ask other doctors”, the intern said, shaking his head.
before the intern came back, the charge nurse was done with his break. i told him i have not done the order yet, and am very uncomfortable about it. was he sure that was what the primarty team intern ordered?
by this time, he was completely cracked up and couldn’t hold it any longer. he whispered “it was a joke”, and that he made up the whole order.
i honestly didn’t know what to say, so i didn’t say anything while he was laughing his head off, so satisfied that his so called prank was very successful. i had to emabarassly tell the on call doctor to forget the whole thing, because yeah, it was just a crappy prank. “it was a bit funny, but very inappropriate”, the intern said.
talk about being inappropriate! when the shift ended, i talked to the charge nurse. i told him: “i don’t know the exact word for what you did, but it was almost like being racist about gay people.”
“that was not racist, that was a joke”, he answered. i explained that i didn’t mean he was a racist, but that it has a similarity. i can’t really find the right word. homophobic seemed like a very light word to describe it. he laughed out loud and waved goodbye, “it was a JOKE!” he repeated.
was it really?
well, i don’t think it was funny. seriously.
please help me clear my mind and tell me…
am i an uptight person who doesn’t have a sense of humor?
do you all think i just need to loosen up?

I don’t think it was a joke. I think this is very inappropriate thing to do, specialy by the charge nurse.
Comment by Helena — May 24, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
OMG. I have about the dirtiest, most vulgar sense of humor imaginable, and I think this was unfunny and horribly inappropriate and homophobic. Gay-bashing, maybe? I don’t know the right word either.
Comment by girl in greenwood — May 24, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
NOT funny. Not even close. You say it was a phone order… was it written in the chart????
Awful. Unprofessional. Just… ick.
Comment by geena — May 24, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Wow! I’m surprised they got away with that! Totally unethical for one thing! Doesn’t that fall under harrassment/discrimination? In my office, and involved would have been out the door!
Can you imaging if the patient found out about it?
And as unprofessional as it was, I couldn’t find anything funny about it either
Comment by Jen — May 24, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
That prank was totally unprofessional, and wasn’t even the slightest bit funny.
Comment by Joe — May 24, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
This isn’t funny. It’s appalling. (And I don’t consider myself uptight or a prude).
It was also, in my personal experiences as a nurse and an attorney, dangerous. What if you had carried out the order? You’d be on the business end of a disciplinary complaint to your attorney general’s office/professional licensing board.
Charge nurse? Appalling.
Comment by Kelly — May 24, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
wow. that is so inappropriate! very disrespectful indeed.
Comment by lei — May 24, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
“I’m not laughing because it’s not funny!”
That was incredibly wierd and stupid and he should definitely not be in charge. He should be counseled.
Comment by RN — May 24, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
That is terrible!
Comment by annemiek — May 25, 2007 @ 4:58 am
Unprofessional doesn’t begin to describe the inappropriate action. If the order is in the chart, nursing administration needs to see it. Lawyers would make mincemeat of the organization and the professionals involved if the chart ever landed in court. And they should.
Onehealthpro
Comment by Onehealthpro — May 25, 2007 @ 7:03 am
we are not allowed to write on doctor’s orders form, that’s why we have a different form for phone/verbal doctor’s orders, that doctors are required to sign within 48 hours after the order was written. this was where he wrote the order. he threw it after he told me it was a joke.
everybody in the unit didn’t take the whole thing seriously because they were focused on the thought that he “got” me with this one. he is a relief charge nurse and everytime he works, when it is not busy, he always makes some sort of pranks. example: when he is charge, he would make up some patient from ER, ask somebody to call from one patient’s empty room and give report to an unsuspecting nurse. the patient will sound so unstable that usually, the nurse will argue about sending the patient to icu instead, then he, and those who know will crack up. or, he would write something funny on a post it and stick it to the nurse’s back. or, he would place the fart machine inside the restroom, press it on when somebody is passing by, and crack up at the sight of disgust or laughter. just all sorts of pranks really.
sometimes, they are funny, so i laugh. but he never did anything to me specifically, because isually don’t participate if he asks me to be a part of the prank.
well, this particular prank did “get” me. sadly, i honestly didn’t sense ANY kind of humor in it.
Comment by may — May 25, 2007 @ 7:40 am
No matter what one’s opinion on homosexuality, it was totally inappropriate, and if he hadn’t stopped you by explaining it was a joke, you and the hospital, may have had a lawsuit on your hands. I’m glad you questioned it.
Comment by Kim — May 25, 2007 @ 7:50 am
this was NOT funny.
i am feeling a wave of increasing anger at this…that someone thought this would be funny, to anyone.
how unfuckingprofessional.
i’m sorry may, i have no words.
i truly wish you had kept a copy of the order with the signature. i would have no problem reporting this to the corporate compliance team, and the ethics committee.
i’m sorry i am so angry. i am near tears over this right now, from the disgust. that doctor or nurse or whatever the fuck he is, shouldnt ever be allowed to have anyone in his care again.
Comment by gypsygrrl — May 25, 2007 @ 7:53 am
I really should read the comments before I spout off shouldn’t I? Seems that I echoed a lot of others comments. But let me say that this person has no business be in a caregiver position. Beyond litigation issues is the poor person who sounds very ill, having been at this idiot’s mercy. I am not a nurse, Yet, but isn’t compassion a big part of the job?
Comment by Kim — May 25, 2007 @ 7:54 am
the words are:
harrassment
hate crimes
people thinking this kind of stuff is *funny* is how Matthew Sheppard ended up tied to a fencepost to die alone.
i’m sorry. i am still disgusted. i think i need to take this disgust to my own home (blog)
Comment by gypsygrrl — May 25, 2007 @ 7:57 am
I agree: Not funny.
Comment by The Curmudgeon — May 25, 2007 @ 9:49 am
Oh, that was a cruel, cruel thing to do. What if there were an order for vaginal exams q 30 minutes on a female patient - it’s sexual harassment. That God you had the foresight to question why the order was written and ask for clarification/reasoning behind it.
When I saw the order in the first sentence, I thought you were going to be discussing a patient with a spinal cord injury.
I am actually heartsick. Oh, I don’t know. I’m such a b**** that I might have taken that right up the chain of command. You were not wrong. You were a patient advocate of the highest caliber.
Gee, for feeling speechless, I had a lot to say!
Comment by Kim — May 25, 2007 @ 10:43 am
That was not a funny thing to do. It is a hateful, cruel thing. You are right. The doctor is a jerk, a homophobic guy with no moral or spiritual compass.
Comment by Audrie — May 25, 2007 @ 11:47 am
We all learned in nursing school that appropriate humor can be theraputic, for staff and patients. Clearly, this nurse missed the word APPROPRIATE. What a fuckhole. Another word I would throw out is heterosexist, which is to describe people who treat gay people with discrimination (i.e. making fake and horribly insulting phone orders) just because they are gay, and thinking that being straight is the only way to be. I’m sorry that you had be part of that “joke” and very glad that you questioned it.
Comment by Jennifer — May 25, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
Not a hate crime, just really inappropriate humor. You were correct in continuing to go after that charge nurse. A JOKE???? This patient is dying and this charge nurse has time for joking in such a sad situation? Makes me wonder what else this so called charge nurse has been up to.
You are great, May!!!!
pam
Comment by pam — May 25, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Thanks to your charge nurse you will all soon be doing mandatory inservices on sensitivity training.
Comment by shrimplate — May 25, 2007 @ 7:06 pm
We have a wicked, dirty sense of humor where I work. But I fail to find that the least bit funny. It is totally disrespectful and inappropriate and I hope someone turns this idiot charge nurse in and that he loses his job. Frightening that he sets the tone of leadership on your unit.
Comment by Lisa — May 25, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
very not funny and also inappropriate in the extreme. i have to agree w/ kim, i would have taken it up the chain of command.
Comment by susan — May 25, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
wow, you’re right, it’s not funny. this is disrespectful and tasteless. at my facility, we have a very strict policy re: mutual respect. the relief charge nurse would have been written up/reported and counseled. your relief charge nurse crossed the line. i, too, would have taken it up the chain of command.
Comment by AzRN — May 26, 2007 @ 1:02 am
Two words: Legal-Action. You will do the hospital a disservice by not reporting him. You must.
Comment by Betsy B. — May 26, 2007 @ 8:47 am
agree not funny and not a joke to me either!
Comment by KimmyK - the other one — May 26, 2007 @ 8:48 am
I thought that was a horrible HORRIBLE joke. Not funny in any sort of whatever you wanna call it. Just wrong.
On a side note-when I saw “KimmyK” up there I thought “OMG I already commented and I don’t remember…” SHEESH. LOL!
Comment by kimmyk — May 26, 2007 @ 9:46 am
We have a doctor who likes to write prank orders in the chart, but they are harmless. It’s complete nonsense that we can’t figure out. He finds it hysterically funny when we call to clarify the order. We just find it to be a huge time waster and not funny at all.
It’s a good thing that you didn’t carry out that order. It would be a good way to becaome a party to a lawsuit.
Comment by Melissa — May 26, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
A horrible joke… inappropriate and highly unprofessional, especially coming from a nurse in charge.
Some people don’t know when they’ve crossed boundaries that shouldn’t be crossed. I’m not saying people working in hospitals shouldn’t have a sense of humour, but in that situation… plus a place where people die if the wrong orders are given or executed… Well, boo on that dude.
Comment by fruityoaty — May 27, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
Not even remotely funny…and I have a sick sense of humor… in my ward his ass would be toast by now and I would be the one laughing!!!
Comment by KJ — May 27, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
Not even remotely funny…and I have a sick sense of humor… in my ward his nursing ass would be toast by now and I would be the one laughing at a whole other joke!!!
Comment by KJ — May 27, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
Does management know about this? Writing fake orders is way inappropriate.
Comment by Anonymous — May 28, 2007 @ 7:08 am
I’m all for jokes, in fact, I commit many of them. But this one isn’t a joke. It’s hostility masked as a joke. I would document this incident on an incident report and give it to my superiors.
Comment by The Bohemian Road Nurse — May 28, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
I think whoever wrote that order should be at the receiving end of that order. What an asshole!
Comment by Rygel — May 29, 2007 @ 5:37 am
Wow. It is a sick joke, and I am sorry you were the target of it. It was definitely:
1. Reportable-looks like this rn practical jokes will keep escalating for his amusement regardless of the outcomes
2. He has no business being in charge if that is the characteristics he displays. A staff rn doing that joke would have been out of the door so fast.
3. Liable-if you don’t report it, someone else might and you may be questioned why you don’t see the liability in it.
4. Inethical- if you don’t say anything, you send a message that it is okay for him to get away with it this time. and it will happen again. Do you have an ethic hotlines where you can stay ananymous?
Good luck May. I am sorry you were in the middle of this.
Comment by ttt — May 29, 2007 @ 8:47 am
come on…i’ve been a nurse for 22 years….thats FUNNY….could you really not see the humor in it?
you DO need to lighten up….get over youself
Comment by arlene — May 29, 2007 @ 11:34 am
just read the comments… i know i wouldnt want to work with any of you
Comment by arlene — May 29, 2007 @ 11:35 am
That was not in anyway funny. Being a nurse for 22 years? I am supprised your standard of patient advocacy is not higher than that.
Comment by ttt — May 29, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
well i’m surprised you don’t have a better sense of humor…its such a part of being a good nurse, and a part of a team.
standard of patient advocacy…LOL…give me a break
Comment by arlene — May 29, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
p.s. the blog writer asked, thats why i gave my opinion….not sure your opinion of my opinion is so relevent
Comment by arlene — May 29, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
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Pingback by focusing on the PATIENT » about a nurse — May 29, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Orders are legal documents. That isn’t a joke- that is not appropriate for the job.
Although it is a bit funny, but still entirely inappropriate.
Comment by Nurse M — May 30, 2007 @ 8:23 am
i hope that talking to your manager gets you what you want…do you know what it is you want from talking to him/her?…or what you expect to accomplish by the report?…think about that.
Comment by arlene — May 31, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
I am actually glad to see that everyone else on here is as outraged by this as I am. I also have one of the sickest most perverted senses of humor of anyone I know and I think that this is horrible. The guy is sick for crying out loud, not a time for you to make fun of his suspected lifestyle. What if he had seen the chart? That nurse should have been reprimanded to say the least and I applaud you for being outraged and saying something. A hospital is not the place to play irresponsible practical jokes, not to mention the time it wasted while you were trying to figure out what was going on!
Comment by Whitney — May 31, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
A young man, ill, with the potential for a fatal diagnosis, is made the butt of an ill spirited potential physically harmful practical joke by the caregiver delegated to supervise the other caregivers?
Have I got the gist of that?
And you solicit input.
The charge nurse has no business in nursing, period. You need to work on your backbone.
Heart is useless without a spine.
Comment by Debbie Huff — June 1, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
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Pingback by Oriented X3 - All the Nurses who Blog... — June 4, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
unbelievable!!!! I love pranks. They can relieve stress and tension. BUT..a patient should never be the target!
You did good reporting him. He should not be a charge nurse!
Comment by angelbev — July 23, 2007 @ 9:02 am
All I can say, is that there is way too little humor in nursing in general, and in hospitals in particular. I agree with Arlene that nurses need to “lighten up” and put some humor in their professional (and maybe personal) lives. But where do we draw the line between humor and whatever one wants to refer/call this behavior? Just something to think about…..I am going to cut and paste the order and put it in my “save/Humor” file and email it to some friends though.
Comment by SB — July 26, 2007 @ 7:53 am
Had this been a women and the orders were written for vaginal digital penetration this would have been rape. Unwanted/warranted penetration. This case is no different, not only should he be fired he should be prosecuted.
Arlene I hope I never wind up under your care.
Comment by Gay Male Doc — July 27, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
when we become nurses, we become advocates for everybody!!. Whether thay are gay, black, white, asian, young, old, or a criminal they are in our care and deserve non judgemental equal care. Jokes such as these demoralise our profession, if you cant trust a nurse than for christ sake who can you trust. For a nurse that should know better and set an example, he deserves to be deregistered.
Comment by kristy — May 7, 2008 @ 7:25 pm